The Arrogance Of False Belief
Once again, I am reminded of the primary difference between a "true" Christian and non-believers.
Here is a quote from a Christian in the forums:
"Christians are capable of greater levels of love than unbelievers. Not because of who we are; but because of God's work in our hearts."
This is an example of a common belief shared exclusive to believers. They have been taught to believe that they are better than anyone else, because God touched them and made them special. But not only special, God makes them superior in every way. They have been taught to believe that they are empathetic, more honest, more loving, and morally superior.
Simultaneously, they possess a mean streak; an attitude that is palpable to those unlike themselves. This is the arrogance of faith.
The New Testament inspires this attitude through the doctrine of salvation. But this is only the beginning. The scriptures are riddled with words of arrogance masquerading as love and concern. There is a mean-spirited bitterness permeating the New Testament, and it is directed at the world. Humans and the earth itself are evil and destined for everlasting destruction. But God loves us. God created "sin" but it is our fault for being born into it. If we don't believe, we will be tortured eternally. Some may believe hell is temporary rather than eternal, but we are still punished to death by torture. Yet God loves us.
We are called fools for being wise (i.e., intellectual or educated), while anyone who believes the New Testament's "good news" is called wise-even if he is not too bright. God loves us and wants to save us, but if you use the brain he gave you....you might reject his offer. So, let us become fools for Christ!
The New Testament describes "wolves in sheep's clothing"(Mt 7:15) causing us "to believe a lie"(2Thess. 2:11), and to beware of "cunningly devised fables"(2Pet 1:16). But the authors are describing themselves. Furthermore, believers become "wolves in sheep's clothing" whenever they speak of their mean-spirited religion. They are killing us with kindness whenever they speak of salvation, hell and and the solution called god's love. They are not the solution. They are the problem.
They are the liars, and the truth in not in them.
The Arrogance Of False Belief
d-man - ignorant christian, quotes in italics
"I have never seen the like of God haters in all my life."
sconnor posted responce:
Dip shit -- you can't hate something that we concluded doesn't exist.
"None of you have a final authority in your life. except your own self righteous, over educated thinking. and supposing yourselves to be wise you all sound like ya'll really have nothing better to do than to brag to each other on how your much education has made most of you sound like blithering idiots. "
Hmmmmmm? Sounds like someone doth protest too much about getting a good education. I suspect this ignoramus is projecting his inadequacies and shortcomings because his intellectual capacity just barely let him scrape by high school. Can you imagine him with his kids? You ain't got to go to no high faluten college with all that book learnin' -- all you need is Jeeeeeeezus.
"JESUS SAVES! not text books. and for all those EX-christians . . . Jesus said you must be born again. The Carnal mind can't understand the things of the spiritual."
Then how in the hell do you UNDERSTAND the "spirtual" magic of salvation? It's Faith!
Faith is a brain malfunction, where you abandon ALL critical thinking skills and the voice of reason, where you willingly, choose to ignore and bury logic, steeping yourself in ignorance, so you can believe, in the unbelievable.What's more -- to bolster my assertion -- FAITH is a deplorable method of obtaining and processing information; consider the devout Muslim: they too make extraordinary claims about Allah and how he works in their lives and that he gave us, his final revelation of divine guidance and direction for mankind in the form of the qur'an. Funny how that whole FAITH thing works out. It allows people to believe in a whole host of absurd ideas.
Faith is nothing more than suspending your disbelief, ON PURPOSE, so as to make it fit in your warped, fantasy-filled world-view. You deliberately choose to forgo the reasoning powers that your own mind possesses and feebly fill in the blanks with subjective flim-flam and bloated, stretched-thin rationalizations, all the while NEVER providing objective evidence for your god-concept. You would have us believe that FAITH is a virtue but it is not. It is not supernatural; it is not spiritual -- it is a CHOICE. A choice steeped in massive delusion -- a construct of your own making, where you believe you have the one and only truth. You CHOOSE to waive your intellectual faculties and throw reasoning out the door, while convincing yourself by pretending that your irrational and insane interpretive claims are perfectly valid.
"And the reason that you're "EX-Christian" is cause you never got born again. You're still lost in your sins and on your way to HELL. "
Your bible god-concept is a sadistic torturer of souls who is so petty and insecure (his poor little feelings were hurt -- po wittle baby) he will torture the majority of his earthly children in the flames of hell for an eternity simply because they perpetrated the most vile heinous of sins: (massive sarcasm) UNBELIEF -- rejecting your delusional concept of god.
According to your asinine beliefs, the six million Jews of the Holocaust, who suffered through unspeakable terrors -- there virtual hell on earth -- where families were torn apart, brutally beaten, burned alive, experimented on, starved and worked to death, unimaginable vile, long-term mass, suffering. And what awaits them after they die? According to D-man -- it's hell.
This hellish existence is also awaiting the Buddhists from the atomic blasts -- their virtual hell on earth -- where if you weren't vaporized, you were burned beyond recognition, charred to the bone and in some cases flower patterns from the fabric of furniture was seared into the skin or you lived the rest of your life rotting away and suffering from radiation poisoning -- epic, horrific destruction and human suffering on a mass scale. According to D-man's crazy beliefs, they now reside in hell. According to D-man -- everyone who does not ascribe to his idiosyncratic, line of delusional thinking and the christian doctrine that pollutes his mailable infantile mind will be spending eternity in hell. The other 70% of the world -- all the other religions and non-believers -- who are not bible believing christians will posthumously reside in hell.
The reason these people will be tortured, for the rest of eternity, is because they were not born a bible believing christian like D-man and they were not persuaded to believe in the preposterous notion that all you have to do to be saved is to have a relationship with him and telepathically tell your cosmic buddy jesus (who resides solely in the limited imaginations of christians) you accept him -- an absurd idea believed by the most brain-dead christians. The Christian’s Delusion Of Salvation God -- who so loved the WORLD and wanted to save everyone -- initiated a plan, of restoration, by sending his son, to be tortured, crucified and sacrificed, to save humanity. Sinful, imperfect fallible humanity -- who couldn't possibly save themselves -- in the end, must pick someones interpretation from a book on how one is supposedly saved and accept and believe in Jesus etc., so they can have eternal life and yet, the other 70% of the world -- at this moment in time -- are other religions, the non-religious, or unbelievers, who are not bible-believing Christians.
Didn't God consider his other earthly children, when he put his feeble, plan into action?
The other 30% of christians who are supposedly saved, are further reduced to even a smaller minority because presumably there are certain criterion that only certain christians follow. Looks like Jesus' torturous, sacrifice was futile. God's inept, plan is incapable of saving everyone and hinges on the fallible imperfect human beings who couldn't save themselves, in the first place. God’s plan -- in using a spurious book for salvation -- is tragically flawed, wholly inadequate and morbidly negligent. The number of lost souls, who will be tortured in the flames of hell for an eternity is monumentally, mind-blowing.
"You all have a head knowledge but not one of you have an heart knowledge. some of you are heartless. and callous to God because you would rather worship self and the creation more than the creator and professing yourselves to be wise you all sound (because you are) like fools in a pool of athiestical and agnostical snot. "
Projecting your stupidity and morbid inadequacies again?
"The truth is all of you are disappointed about how something in your life turned out so you all said Let's make club and say that God isn't real. YEAHH!!!!! Boy do you a rude awakening coming."
It's inconceivable for a deluded christian drone -- like yourself -- to accept that other christians, that were, even bible quoting, god fearing, holy spirit filled, born-again, Jesus freaks, who had a "relationship" with Jesus did NOT become apostates because we were "disappointed about how something in your life turned out" but instead they actually took the time to honestly research the christian faith and comparative religions, who through critical thinking and the voice of reason, dug themselves out of the pit of morbid ignorance and the sludgy swamp of christianity and slowly concluded there was NO objective evidence for a personal christian god and that christianity is mere bullshit.
"I did like what one person said you said that we spoke of the bible like it was the final authority. It's because it is, moron. whether you believe it or not."
Please provide objective evidence that the bible is god's word and that it's his final authority -- waiting.....................
"and i can call you moron cuz you won't believe it any wayz and all of you will have some smart comment to make about this. so Yes I did write this just so I could insult your intelligence. so correct my spelling and grammer and talk about how uneducated i am."
Hmmmmmm? contradicted yourself in one paragraph. First you rant and rave that we are too educated, intelligent and wise and now you do a 180 and try and insult our intelligence. You are a confused individual.
"I don't care because I have something that the founders and strong supporters of this site don't have. Peace. And that only comes through faith (by grace) in the shed blood of the man Christ Jesus. Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be Saved."
The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation, and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation, and can be believed only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance called 'faith.' -- Robert G. Ingersoll.
Put this quote above in your memory banks and comprehend that the part about being insane and ignorant apply wholeheartedly to you.